SeX... Special Love? Open Love?
Scribed by Rev. Devan Jesse Byrne on Monday, October 19, 2009
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( WIth the teachings and approach of a 'A Course in Miracles' student )
Well with the title I can tell you I woke up just now knowing I should write about it, yet I have fear and blocks with all areas of this subject. With out using my past as an excuse just a very brief background. I was raised LDS aka Mormon and in the deepest teachings of the church it says sex should only be between a married man and women, who wish to have children and it can only be in missionary stile. Now most mormons don't even know this, but it is true in utah it is a old ancient law that only missionary position is legal. as well as premarital sex is illegal, these laws are in the books, but not enforced at all. Brigham Young was a 'Prophet' of the church and founded Utah creating these laws, which have only been grandfathered in to todays books.
I am spinning of the subject but I wanted to give you an Idea where Sex is in the eyes of the people I was raised by. I have fear about talking about this and getting into it. Yes it seems true I am a man, and do have seeming urges as a man for a women's body. Is it about upstanding from sex? What do I feel spirit teaching me in this subject I would like to pass on and share with you. Of course sex involved two (or more) bodies with the exception of toys and lotions, if it can really be called sex. But how can a spiritual teaching, or teacher talk about or do this act when it is God it seeks, almost as if they are two ends of the spectrum and God is seeming on the good side, in contrary to most men my age believe, and desire. So it seems the ego would like sex to be a bad thing, and the desire for a body to be a 'moral' sin. What if it wasn't? What if its not about the bodies at all? What if even when I think I want sex, I really want God, but I hide my idea of god behind the body of a beautiful woman?
There has been talk around here that the 'URText' of 'A Course in Miracles' says that it is not sex that is the problem but that you think you can get pleasure from it that is. Meaning from my perspective is that the pleasure is not in sex in two ways, one being when you think your pleased your really lying to yourself, because deep down you really want these bodies to be real and so you get then to 'feel' as much as possible and hurt as much as possible, almost as if it also is a punishment for those imprisoned in the fleshy body. And two being you think that in the body of another there is something that your missing, and you need to rip them open t find it, or shove them inside to get it. As if the part that you don't have can be some how transfered of to you if there is enough friction, with so many orgasms and bighting and scratching as possible. As if our only goal was God, and its in you so lets go Fuck! Assuming that the closeness of the bodies could enhance it or bring god together.
Well in my understanding of this is God is in the person you desire, because they are in your minds, and God is the mind in which you think. God is not out there in a body you can get closer to. the body in front of you is not closer or farther to you even if it was running away (Naked for fun) the body in front of you is in your mind, it never was out there, only your belief said it was out there, because it seems to have a mind of its own and life of its own free will. So if the body I wish to have sex with for an example is simply in my head why do I need to go to it and get close to it, when I am it. Couldn't tell you, this really is the logic and insanity of the ego. But it all relies on one truth. Is it true that all things are in the mind of the dreamer?
If I come from a place of loss, or a place that I think I do not have something or someone and I can get it from the other, then I believe that I am separate and I believe that the secret to all the universe is in that body, and not in a tree (less your paul) Then I believe it is in that body and not in a car or a house or a pile of deep dog shit. So as the story goes I would much rather be humping a smooth body then a pile of dog doo doo. Is that special? apsilutly, my UN-willingness to be open to the whole illusion is insanity, to think that one body shape illusion is more then a doo doo or car shaped illusion. They are all illusion, they are not different in anyway. Now of course I don't mean you can go get pleasure out of humping a muffler (which is illegal in North decoda) I mean you can't get pleasure from any of them, nothing in form is pleasurable. Its like Pornography there is no pleasure in watching it, tell you turn your head a bit and start coming from a place where you think you can get something from it. the pleasure was and is a choice in our minds, lets go there yes Sex Dreams or in my case Wet Dreams.
A dream where it seems as if you engage in an activity that seems to give your body pleasure and even to the brink of orgasm. a wonderful display of the pleasure being in our minds. To get you deeper to understanding this, a bit about dreams. Dreams are the chose of your seeming mind thinking and imaging events or situations that you desire or fear. So in other word your mind it thinking! Your mind thinks! great this is good, your mind seems to think. Well the point is when you woke from the dream where you just got a "Nice piece of ass" and happened to ejaculate in your shorts... did you really get a "nice piece of ass" in this seeming reality you woke up to? No it was all in your mind, even the "nice piece of freaking ass". So must I wait to get pleasure when it is in my mind? It would then seem I could just choose not to get aroused and ejaculate here in my pants wile I am typing this up. is that possible? Some would question it of course, but why do you question is the question, because we believe in some illusions being different then other illusions. As if the imaginations of our seeming mind was not real and the body in front of us was. What if that body was you still in a dream? it would feel real, it would look real... but this time it really was not apart from you imagination, it WAS your imagination! So is my goal to get allot of imaginary "nice piece of holy freaking ass"?
My goal is not to be a celibate monk or a dude that gets allot of "ass". I choose to follow guidance, for the healing of mind from all these crazy ideas of seeming levels in a illusionary world and mind that thinks it is apart from it. My goal is to not say no, no try and get it. for there is no difference. my goal is to treat everyone like I treat dog shit... ok maybe not like that. But I think you get the idea, the goal is to have no judgments in their differences. All my brothers are one, all my brothers and sisters are welcome to my bed. I do not run and I do not force. I except life as it is, for there is not a difference in two or many illusions they are all the same illusion. Now now I am open for full healing of mind. Now I am willing to go where ever the spirit guides me, even if it means in bed with my ‘Enemy'. Would it guide me to my humiliation and darkest grief?
Guidance seems to be a tricky thing in these parts of the mind. The ego so easily wants to say, "what kind of holy spirit tells me to go have sex with a married women, or even sex at all" Again as if there was a difference with a married women and non married women, or even a man, or even sex as the action or eating... different illusions in a one illusional world, what makes them different? Judgment of the mind. and as I said, my goal is to have no judgments. So if it was true that guidance did tell you to have sex with a married women (as an example) it is not necessarily saying do it, no is it necessarily saying don't. Beyond the words it says heal your mind of these judgments, heal your mind that you believe and think there is a difference in two illusions. they are the same, and they are all illusion. It seems many would have fear if the new guidance was telling to be with a married women, for all the consequences and meanings that we have behind it, it IS a holy freaking commandment for peat sake! This fear about that, is a fear of a judgment, a judgement is a belief in thought, thinking it is separate... Heal your mind of judgment, Forgive yourself, forgive others, they never were real and they never were different. illusion is all illusion. So then where is the best place to "Do it"?
Is it in the pool, or the beach? in the rain or a graveyard? in bed or a tree? On top or on me? on TV or on youtube? on the short or on the Long? To me it is the same place it always has been, the best place to make some sweet love music is in your mind, for there is no place out of it. Where? is not the question, but from where am I? is closer to placing it properly. How do I see this person? do I see then a separate and in this action am I gaining? or do I realize they are one with me passionately loving the self. The mind in which I think is God, in truth it is beyond form completely and Sex has nothing to do with truth just as much as God loves chocolate cake. Pleasures of the world are not bad, it is only the mistaken idea that you think you get pleasure from them. Some say a state of nirvana is as an orgasm as I would have to agree. It is also said that enlightenment is a feeling of continues perfect orgasm. Is this the goal? Joy is the goal, bodies only reflect the ideas the mind has. To realize joy constantly, your body will feel joy the same way. The question is really, do I feel my body?
The body and feeling is the confusion of cause and effect, to jump striate to it. The mind produces all the pleasures of the world, yet we think they are in the world. I have found I can choose to be drunk if I wish to be drunk, and its cheep too because I do it with out alcohol. If I wish to be High, I meditate on it, for a moment and I start tripping out as if I was. I learned from this that it really is and always was just a choice in my mind. Magic is thinking that Pot has the ability to make you choose, as in if I smoke it I will have no choice but to be high. But in the choice to 'seemingly' smoke it, you choose to be hight too. but in your mind. The choice is in the mind, it always was. So I can and always do, choose first to have pleasure then project that pleasure in the world and deny myself of that pleasure tell I get the projection back. As if the projection really left. What a relief, it is still where it always has been. I bring it back to its origin and responsibility I take. The question is, is there really or can there ever be responsibility for illusions? ...Only in insanity.
So many students of the course still say that sex is a distraction, or anything at all could be. lets take meditation for an example. most people think meditation can ONLY be done in silence. Yes it is easer to start learning meditation in silence but a true meditator can meditate in all noise, not because he is a master but because he realizes the noise is the manifestations of his mind. Where is the noise? It is in my mind. The noise will sooth you as you realize the truth for it is not about noise it is about you. Is sex a distraction, only when you think of it like noise coming from outside, appose to coming from your mind. Its not about not doing it, nor is it about doing it... it is about truly fully excepting everything in you.
So I conclude, will I have sex with you? YES!!! of course I will, I am a young man after all. lol But as I have been saying, in truth it is impossible to have sex with you, for you are in my mind, and I am a thought in God. In truth you can't do anything wrong, because you can't really do anything. You are at peace, and there is nothing to disturb it, and I mean there is nothing. Yes I am here to heal my pain and problems, but also I am here to heal my pleasures also. I want truth above all else, and I am willing to do and go anywhere for it, I follow where I am guided.
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( WIth the teachings and approach of a 'A Course in Miracles' student )
Well with the title I can tell you I woke up just now knowing I should write about it, yet I have fear and blocks with all areas of this subject. With out using my past as an excuse just a very brief background. I was raised LDS aka Mormon and in the deepest teachings of the church it says sex should only be between a married man and women, who wish to have children and it can only be in missionary stile. Now most mormons don't even know this, but it is true in utah it is a old ancient law that only missionary position is legal. as well as premarital sex is illegal, these laws are in the books, but not enforced at all. Brigham Young was a 'Prophet' of the church and founded Utah creating these laws, which have only been grandfathered in to todays books.
I am spinning of the subject but I wanted to give you an Idea where Sex is in the eyes of the people I was raised by. I have fear about talking about this and getting into it. Yes it seems true I am a man, and do have seeming urges as a man for a women's body. Is it about upstanding from sex? What do I feel spirit teaching me in this subject I would like to pass on and share with you. Of course sex involved two (or more) bodies with the exception of toys and lotions, if it can really be called sex. But how can a spiritual teaching, or teacher talk about or do this act when it is God it seeks, almost as if they are two ends of the spectrum and God is seeming on the good side, in contrary to most men my age believe, and desire. So it seems the ego would like sex to be a bad thing, and the desire for a body to be a 'moral' sin. What if it wasn't? What if its not about the bodies at all? What if even when I think I want sex, I really want God, but I hide my idea of god behind the body of a beautiful woman?
There has been talk around here that the 'URText' of 'A Course in Miracles' says that it is not sex that is the problem but that you think you can get pleasure from it that is. Meaning from my perspective is that the pleasure is not in sex in two ways, one being when you think your pleased your really lying to yourself, because deep down you really want these bodies to be real and so you get then to 'feel' as much as possible and hurt as much as possible, almost as if it also is a punishment for those imprisoned in the fleshy body. And two being you think that in the body of another there is something that your missing, and you need to rip them open t find it, or shove them inside to get it. As if the part that you don't have can be some how transfered of to you if there is enough friction, with so many orgasms and bighting and scratching as possible. As if our only goal was God, and its in you so lets go Fuck! Assuming that the closeness of the bodies could enhance it or bring god together.
Well in my understanding of this is God is in the person you desire, because they are in your minds, and God is the mind in which you think. God is not out there in a body you can get closer to. the body in front of you is not closer or farther to you even if it was running away (Naked for fun) the body in front of you is in your mind, it never was out there, only your belief said it was out there, because it seems to have a mind of its own and life of its own free will. So if the body I wish to have sex with for an example is simply in my head why do I need to go to it and get close to it, when I am it. Couldn't tell you, this really is the logic and insanity of the ego. But it all relies on one truth. Is it true that all things are in the mind of the dreamer?
If I come from a place of loss, or a place that I think I do not have something or someone and I can get it from the other, then I believe that I am separate and I believe that the secret to all the universe is in that body, and not in a tree (less your paul) Then I believe it is in that body and not in a car or a house or a pile of deep dog shit. So as the story goes I would much rather be humping a smooth body then a pile of dog doo doo. Is that special? apsilutly, my UN-willingness to be open to the whole illusion is insanity, to think that one body shape illusion is more then a doo doo or car shaped illusion. They are all illusion, they are not different in anyway. Now of course I don't mean you can go get pleasure out of humping a muffler (which is illegal in North decoda) I mean you can't get pleasure from any of them, nothing in form is pleasurable. Its like Pornography there is no pleasure in watching it, tell you turn your head a bit and start coming from a place where you think you can get something from it. the pleasure was and is a choice in our minds, lets go there yes Sex Dreams or in my case Wet Dreams.
A dream where it seems as if you engage in an activity that seems to give your body pleasure and even to the brink of orgasm. a wonderful display of the pleasure being in our minds. To get you deeper to understanding this, a bit about dreams. Dreams are the chose of your seeming mind thinking and imaging events or situations that you desire or fear. So in other word your mind it thinking! Your mind thinks! great this is good, your mind seems to think. Well the point is when you woke from the dream where you just got a "Nice piece of ass" and happened to ejaculate in your shorts... did you really get a "nice piece of ass" in this seeming reality you woke up to? No it was all in your mind, even the "nice piece of freaking ass". So must I wait to get pleasure when it is in my mind? It would then seem I could just choose not to get aroused and ejaculate here in my pants wile I am typing this up. is that possible? Some would question it of course, but why do you question is the question, because we believe in some illusions being different then other illusions. As if the imaginations of our seeming mind was not real and the body in front of us was. What if that body was you still in a dream? it would feel real, it would look real... but this time it really was not apart from you imagination, it WAS your imagination! So is my goal to get allot of imaginary "nice piece of holy freaking ass"?
My goal is not to be a celibate monk or a dude that gets allot of "ass". I choose to follow guidance, for the healing of mind from all these crazy ideas of seeming levels in a illusionary world and mind that thinks it is apart from it. My goal is to not say no, no try and get it. for there is no difference. my goal is to treat everyone like I treat dog shit... ok maybe not like that. But I think you get the idea, the goal is to have no judgments in their differences. All my brothers are one, all my brothers and sisters are welcome to my bed. I do not run and I do not force. I except life as it is, for there is not a difference in two or many illusions they are all the same illusion. Now now I am open for full healing of mind. Now I am willing to go where ever the spirit guides me, even if it means in bed with my ‘Enemy'. Would it guide me to my humiliation and darkest grief?
Guidance seems to be a tricky thing in these parts of the mind. The ego so easily wants to say, "what kind of holy spirit tells me to go have sex with a married women, or even sex at all" Again as if there was a difference with a married women and non married women, or even a man, or even sex as the action or eating... different illusions in a one illusional world, what makes them different? Judgment of the mind. and as I said, my goal is to have no judgments. So if it was true that guidance did tell you to have sex with a married women (as an example) it is not necessarily saying do it, no is it necessarily saying don't. Beyond the words it says heal your mind of these judgments, heal your mind that you believe and think there is a difference in two illusions. they are the same, and they are all illusion. It seems many would have fear if the new guidance was telling to be with a married women, for all the consequences and meanings that we have behind it, it IS a holy freaking commandment for peat sake! This fear about that, is a fear of a judgment, a judgement is a belief in thought, thinking it is separate... Heal your mind of judgment, Forgive yourself, forgive others, they never were real and they never were different. illusion is all illusion. So then where is the best place to "Do it"?
Is it in the pool, or the beach? in the rain or a graveyard? in bed or a tree? On top or on me? on TV or on youtube? on the short or on the Long? To me it is the same place it always has been, the best place to make some sweet love music is in your mind, for there is no place out of it. Where? is not the question, but from where am I? is closer to placing it properly. How do I see this person? do I see then a separate and in this action am I gaining? or do I realize they are one with me passionately loving the self. The mind in which I think is God, in truth it is beyond form completely and Sex has nothing to do with truth just as much as God loves chocolate cake. Pleasures of the world are not bad, it is only the mistaken idea that you think you get pleasure from them. Some say a state of nirvana is as an orgasm as I would have to agree. It is also said that enlightenment is a feeling of continues perfect orgasm. Is this the goal? Joy is the goal, bodies only reflect the ideas the mind has. To realize joy constantly, your body will feel joy the same way. The question is really, do I feel my body?
The body and feeling is the confusion of cause and effect, to jump striate to it. The mind produces all the pleasures of the world, yet we think they are in the world. I have found I can choose to be drunk if I wish to be drunk, and its cheep too because I do it with out alcohol. If I wish to be High, I meditate on it, for a moment and I start tripping out as if I was. I learned from this that it really is and always was just a choice in my mind. Magic is thinking that Pot has the ability to make you choose, as in if I smoke it I will have no choice but to be high. But in the choice to 'seemingly' smoke it, you choose to be hight too. but in your mind. The choice is in the mind, it always was. So I can and always do, choose first to have pleasure then project that pleasure in the world and deny myself of that pleasure tell I get the projection back. As if the projection really left. What a relief, it is still where it always has been. I bring it back to its origin and responsibility I take. The question is, is there really or can there ever be responsibility for illusions? ...Only in insanity.
So many students of the course still say that sex is a distraction, or anything at all could be. lets take meditation for an example. most people think meditation can ONLY be done in silence. Yes it is easer to start learning meditation in silence but a true meditator can meditate in all noise, not because he is a master but because he realizes the noise is the manifestations of his mind. Where is the noise? It is in my mind. The noise will sooth you as you realize the truth for it is not about noise it is about you. Is sex a distraction, only when you think of it like noise coming from outside, appose to coming from your mind. Its not about not doing it, nor is it about doing it... it is about truly fully excepting everything in you.
So I conclude, will I have sex with you? YES!!! of course I will, I am a young man after all. lol But as I have been saying, in truth it is impossible to have sex with you, for you are in my mind, and I am a thought in God. In truth you can't do anything wrong, because you can't really do anything. You are at peace, and there is nothing to disturb it, and I mean there is nothing. Yes I am here to heal my pain and problems, but also I am here to heal my pleasures also. I want truth above all else, and I am willing to do and go anywhere for it, I follow where I am guided.
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